Okay. I've never been a refugee claimant, but in our meetings and discussions with refugee claimants they consider the first few weeks in Canada to be not catastrophic, but absolutely mind-bending. Again, when they go to see an officer for the first time, these are officers and they are armed, all right? We've had that comment come back many times. Individuals see armed people as authority, and they're not comfortable in that interview.
At the same time, the 28-day issue is one that says if you use the 28 days to make sure they understand what everything is all about, then the 28 days are well used, because a certain percentage of them will not go ahead. We see many people in the last stages of the process who should never have been there. They could have come here as skilled workers, as temporary workers, as students. We see many people like that, but instead they've gone through four years of hell.