Evidence of meeting #23 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was clause.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Peter MacDougall  Director General, Refugees, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Luke Morton  Senior Legal Counsel, Manager, Refugee Legal Team, Legal Services, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
John Butt  Manager, Program Development, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

8:20 p.m.

NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

I'm sorry.

8:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

I'm sorry. I probably have something that you don't.

8:20 p.m.

NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

You do.

8:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

No, no, don't....

8:20 p.m.

NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

I obviously don't.

8:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

No, no, stop.

(Clause 37 agreed to)

8:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

We're on to new clause 37.1. It's a government amendment, G-10.

8:20 p.m.

Conservative

Rick Dykstra Conservative St. Catharines, ON

So moved.

(Amendment agreed to) [See Minutes of Proceedings]

8:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

I guess that's it.

(On clause 38—Application for protection)

8:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

On clause 38, we have government amendment G-11.

8:20 p.m.

Conservative

Rick Dykstra Conservative St. Catharines, ON

So moved.

(Amendment agreed to) [See Minutes of Proceedings]

(Clause 38 as amended agreed to)

(Clauses 39 to 41 inclusive agreed to)

(On clause 42--Order in council)

8:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

We're on clause 42. We have a government amendment, G-12.

8:25 p.m.

Conservative

Rick Dykstra Conservative St. Catharines, ON

Yes, it's regarding when it comes into force, Mr. Chair, so I would move the government amendment 12 on clause 42.

8:25 p.m.

Some hon. members

Carried.

8:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Just give me a second.

Ms. Chow, if this amendment carries....

8:25 p.m.

NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

Allow me to speak to that.

8:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

I'm going to let you tell me what you think of amendment 16.1.

8:25 p.m.

NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

Okay, on both NDP-16 and 16.1, I moved those motions at the time that I was extremely worried that the RAD, the Refugee Appeal Division, had been set up and that those folks who are under so-called safe countries would not have access to it. I was worried that the one-year ban that comes under the H and C consideration would have an impact because they're different coming-into-force provisions.

Since those two are now dealt with--that people will have H and C consideration and an appeal--I no longer need to worry about when things come into force. So I'm not moving NDP-16 or 16.1.

8:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Shall amendment G-12 carry?

(Amendment agreed to) [See Minutes of Proceedings]

(Clause 42 as amended agreed to)

(On clause 1--Short title)

Okay, we're on to the short title. There's a Bloc amendment.

8:25 p.m.

Bloc

Thierry St-Cyr Bloc Jeanne-Le Ber, QC

Mr. Chairman—

8:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Don't be too long.

8:25 p.m.

Bloc

Thierry St-Cyr Bloc Jeanne-Le Ber, QC

I withdraw that amendment. However, the minister has introduced new bills and I'm going to come back to put an end to this ridiculous practice of giving bills vulgar names.

8:25 p.m.

Conservative

Rick Dykstra Conservative St. Catharines, ON

I certainly wish my colleague all the best.

8:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

We have some debate on the short title.

Monsieur Coderre.

8:25 p.m.

Liberal

Denis Coderre Liberal Bourassa, QC

Mr. Chairman, we may not have the right to amend the title, but we do have the right to delete it. The future will tell us whether this act is fair or not. It's a very subjective title. We can't decently walk around saying that this is the equitable refugee bill. I move an amendment that we delete this title.