The difficulty is two things. The first is that five years probably isn't enough in terms of being actually able to review, because by the time this is implemented, you want to make sure you actually have gone through this process a number of times to see how it has worked. From my perspective—and of course this may not be the minister in place at immigration in five, six, seven, or eight years—what he has wanted to do is to have at least the option for the minister responsible, regardless of who it is, to be able to de-list a country. When you are seeing a minister at this point wanting to make sure there is not the option to put a country on a list but only the option to take a country off a list, it is telling me very clearly that he is saying we are going to review and look at this issue on a regular basis. It will be in a lot more than just five years. I have a feeling that, each and every time the review committee meets—which is struck to advise the minister and provide him or her with the country that should be considered safe—that committee that serves as we do is going to see what the reasons were, what the rationale was.
In fact, the way this compromise is, we have actually put ourselves in a position of being able to have the committee at least know and be aware of the decisions that are made. Then, obviously, if they want to bring it back here to the committee to bring some of those folks in, to present us why they made the decisions they made, that option is always open to this committee. From my perspective, it is built in.
I will add one more thing. Let's not forget these are going to be public servants who sit in these positions. They, themselves, will be there based on their personal review; and the review they face as public servants is going to take place on a regular basis as well. We have within the framework of the legislation a review mechanism; a review process is in place that is somewhat at the minister's discretion but also at the committee's discretion. I also believe that, based on the setup of the committee, we have in place a structure upon which members will be reviewed on a regular basis as public servants.