Thank you, Chair.
I'm interested in hearing from our friends from Winnipeg a little more about what has been—you referred to it earlier, Mr. Dyson—effective in terms of deterrents and cutting down on ghost consultants and poor advice infiltrating the process.
I'd like to hear you expound on those a little bit, because one of the things that has been in this bill, which is all about cracking down on crooked consultants, is the idea that more penalities and longer sentences are a powerful deterrent. But you seem to say there are other ways that have been effective in your case.