First of all, I should underscore that it's a Justice program. We just transfer money to Justice, because they say they have an obligation to help fund provincial legal aid on immigration matters.
I would point out to my friends at the Department of Justice and the provinces that we just saved the provinces about $1.8 billion through refugee reform. Once it's fully implemented, we calculate that over five years the reduced costs for social services, welfare, and legal aid, etc., will be in that range.
It does concern me that the provinces always seem to be putting pressure on the federal government for more, but I haven't had a single thank you note from a provincial minister of finance or immigration or social services for saving them nearly $2 billion on refugee reform. That does hurt. It hurts.