I think access is as important in health care as referral. The reality is that referring someone somewhere else, which may be many miles away, is not the same as giving a patient care. With all due respect, you may say that you're not refusing; you may actually be refusing. I can happily, as a politician, put the full weight of the blame on the government for not negotiating a deal, but my concern continues to be that the refugees, the claimants, aren't being taken care of.
I have a question for Monsieur Forcier. In an article I read in The Globe and Mail, you said that you don't have data on the number of people who are on this program. You say that when you don't have a deal, you don't have data. I can't believe there's a single pharmacist who's running a small business who doesn't keep data. I can't believe that when I go to a drugstore and present my drug card, that isn't stored somewhere. I simply can't believe that you don't have data on the number of people you serve on this. You may not keep their citizenship status, but certainly you know if it is a drug program administered by either Blue Cross or the previous carrier. You must know how many people are on that program, and there would be an identifying code that says client number 7,429 or something on it. A small business person, if they're going to make money, needs to know where their business is. Is it really true you don't have data?