Thank you, Chair.
I, too, certainly have a concern. It's obvious we spent a couple of days listening to what folks had to say about those who were impacted by the changes that are being made. But I think it's important not to position this from some sort of convenient truth perspective or, quite frankly, a political perspective. I can appreciate at times where Mr. Kennedy is coming from, but he's asking the government to side with him on a particular issue or to side with Ms. Chow's motion, while at the same time he spent the entire exercise, at least when he was asking questions, confirming in his mind that these were political decisions. I don't know how you reach out to your colleagues across the aisle when the statements that you make are....
I'm going to get to that, because your facts aren't actually true. You want to trump up some 78,000 number based on some research you've done. Go ahead and do your press conferences and we'll see where those go. As you know, Gerard, you can go ahead and do your press conferences and try to drive a message, but it's simply political. You're not dealing with the actual individuals here who are being impacted by it, and you're also not dealing with the overall decisions that have to be made across this country with respect to immigration.
It's fairly simple, Mr. Chair. There's certainly a very clear chart that shows that in 2005 and 2006 there were 140,000 permanent residents—not individuals who landed, but permanent residents—in the province of Ontario. The receipt of funds was $111 million. We travel through the process and we see in 2006 and 2007 a decline in permanent residents--