If we're basing it on the resources available, I'd have to study that a bit. But based on Canadian labour market needs, I would say probably—and this is a ballpark figure and it will vary with the state of the economy—we could get by quite well on half the number we're bringing in now. The reason I say that is that some of the best research shows that if we made better use of our own resources, we wouldn't need to bring in so many people.
As a member of the NDP, Olivia Chow said when the government announced new measures at the end of January—and some of them were very good—the federal government would serve Canadians better by training people out of work at home before looking abroad to fill labour needs. She was dead on. We shouldn't stop immigration, but we should base it on where we can't fill labour shortages ourselves. We should look at that first and then see where we need immigration. We're not doing that. Immigration has become an end in itself.