Every system you devise will create false positives and false negatives; that is to say, no system will perfectly capture everybody you want included and everybody who you think should be excluded.
The discussion I think thus far has been focused almost entirely on those who are perceived to be those who ought to be excluded and how the system falsely includes them. Very little attention has been paid to those who the system currently excludes who ought to be included, and how many more people will be excluded under a new system who ought to be included. That leads us back to discussions about the necessity of appropriate appeals and other kinds of recourse.
But on this idea of the bogus refugee that looms so large, let me just pick everybody's, you know, the government's favourite bogus refugee: the Roma. There's all sorts of evidence that the Roma face extraordinary discrimination. Whether that discrimination amounts to persecution in every case, in some cases, or in many cases is open to question.
But for somebody who faces extreme discrimination, for example, to make a refugee claim and to have a decision made that says, you know, you face discrimination, but it's not severe enough to amount to persecution. That person may not be a refugee. But to put them in the same category of bogus as somebody who just wakes up in the morning and decides they're just going to come to Canada and make a refugee claim—