Thank you, Mr. Chair, and I thank both presenters for coming here before us today.
I first want to pick up on what the Taxpayers Federation said. Their overriding concern seems to be wanting to save tax dollars for Canadians, and that's admirable.
It's been over the last number of years that this whole backlog issue of our taking years to process refugees has really come to the surface. In the last four or five years, have you figured out how much that extended prolonging of processing has cost the taxpayers?