With my good friend, Mr. Collacott, for over 20 years, I have been hard-pressed to disagree with him publicly on any matter. However, he may not be wrong, as he has access to information far superior to my low level means. If he is indicating that the criminal element internationally or drug dealing establishment now prefers refugee or human smuggling for its lower costs, he has the facts and I don't.
Nevertheless, that's not what I would be measuring. You can't measure potential supply; you have to measure the hard facts on the ground, the intake to our Canadian overseas determination system, the intake to our Canadian inland system. Has there been a spike there? No.