There you go. We will leave that question sitting there for now. Thank you very much.
I'm going to take some questions, and I do have agreement from the chair, because as vice-chair I stepped in as chair for today.
My first question is to Ms. Cleveland. Please feel free to add as well, Cécile.
We know that under Bill C-31 children 16 or older will be incarcerated as if they were adults, while children under 16 will either be separated from their parents and put into provincial care, or unofficially held with their parents.
What are the probable mental health consequences if children are separated from their parents and handed over to child protection agencies while their parents are detained, and what are the probable mental health consequences of children being denied, officially or unofficially?