That's right. Again, referring to the case of Somalia refugees in Kenya after 20 years in a very isolated, insecure camp, where instances of rape, armed robbery, and murder are practically daily occurrences, taking the risk of onward movement, the perilous crossing of the Strait of Yemen, crossing the Mediterranean, the perilous trip down to South Africa, what we find is that....
First of all, it takes a very long time for word to spread that there's that kind of penalty that will be in place. Second, even that penalty does not seem to be effective as a deterrent. Third, the human cost—again I refer to the six suicides and 17,000 cases of self-harm—strikes me as quite extraordinary.