It's funny you brought up Australia, because we had a witness here earlier this morning who was talking about the same...I want to say horrible outcomes from the mandatory detention that Australia has practised over the many years.
We've heard the minister say they want to use detention as a means of deterring asylum seekers coming to Canada, but we're seeing that detention is being used as a form of penalty. What is your opinion about detention and penalizing refugees as a means of deterring them from coming to Canada?