Thank you very much.
We will not suspend. We're going to move right into the next panel.
Ms. Desloges and Professor Milner, I want to thank you for your presentations and comments. It was greatly appreciated. Thank you for coming.
We have before us Mary Crock, who is a professor at the University of Sydney; and Daniel Ghezelbash, who is also with the faculty of law at the University of Sydney.
Thank you both. I guess it's 7:30 in the morning there. We're at 5:30 here, yesterday.
You have up to 10 minutes to make a presentation, if you wish to say a few words to the committee.