Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you to our witnesses as well. Going back to the motivation for this bill, we've heard some government members say it's to deter the asylum seekers from coming in large numbers, and we've heard others many times say it's not about deterrence.
In your expert opinion of the bill—and we know that Bill C-11 still hasn't been implemented and Bill C-31 is now being pushed through—what do you think is the motivation? Either one of you.