First of all, we said in our presentation very clearly that we welcome measures that will facilitate and streamline a process. I think Mr. Waldman's comment that there is a balance between efficiency and fairness is important to bear in mind.
You asked why people would go back to their countries of origin. We have a few cases, and we've submitted them to the clerk. We've changed the names. In a number of cases, because of the difficulty of obtaining travel documents, refugees can find themselves in situations of intense pressure—family pressures, where a family member has been left behind, or, in some of these cases, where they've actually been kidnapped by other factions or other family members. In order to be able to be close to them, they have had to use their passport of origin.
You know, I can't imagine what it's like. I know what it's like to be a mother, and I can't imagine what it would be like to be separated from a minor child. In one case, where a woman did return to Pakistan using her Afghan passport, she managed to get her son back, and after five months of.... He was becoming really quite depressed about no action. He finally was able to come into Canada. He has been sponsored by the original church group and he's now enrolled in high school and working part time. He'll be able to apply for citizenship in 2014.
The irony is that this poor woman is now in jeopardy because of clause 19. I think you will understand the unfairness of that situation.