Thank you, Mr. Chair.
As a Canadian, it's always a matter of pride for me to stand alongside people who stand up for vulnerable people. I really applaud both of you for the work you've done. I've been looking at your biographies while you've been speaking.
I understand that you have a very distinguished background, Jayne, with the Tarnopolsky award to your credit, and even two nominations for a Nobel Peace Prize as part of a group.
Loly, with your background from El Salvador, you have a very powerful story to tell. You know the plight of people who are refugees.
Thanks to both of you for being here and for what you do.
As a lawyer myself, and as someone who's done international law and cares a lot about human rights, I asked myself, what is the most powerful thing we have in Canada in our protection of refugees? I think it may be the trust we have in the system, and that trust is there partly because we know we can be safe.
So I look at the balance, and I say that as long as Canadians are confident that we have safety mechanisms there, then the populace, who are our bosses, we elected representatives, will be onside and will allow us to continue to put our weight behind our refugee program and helping people in the kinds of situations you describe.
Again, I come back to my colleague Ms. James' earlier questions. It seems to me that if we don't have a very effective removal system and a good detention system, then we risk eroding the trust of the populace. Because if we get a few bad situations.... It only takes a few bad situations to come about before people start calling upon all of us, as members of Parliament, to throw down the portcullis and say, “Sorry—no more”.
I'd just ask you to reflect on that. Maybe you can each give us a minute on that.