No, I'm not aware but I know that there is a pilot project. There is a project that is working with the immigration holding centre and the Toronto bail program, so that they release the person who has to present themselves and report. That's one way that they don't need to be in detention.
One thing related to the second point, I was presenting in my opening remarks about all the mental health and all the human cost that the victims suffer, especially if it is a woman and children who are fleeing persecution because of their gender. Sometimes they are women who are pregnant. They are seven or eight months into their pregnancy, and at the moment they arrive and they are detained, they suffer so much emotionally that it causes flashbacks so that they even go into labour. And when they start with that, this is when sometimes they call the refugee council and they release the person with us.
The other is with the children. We have been seeing this with the children, and I believe you have seen the report from Janet Cleveland and Delphine Nakache that the children have behavioural problems when they are released, they've lost their appetite, and I see it with the women when they arrive at the refugee house where I work.