It is essential to make a distinction between family members who are part of the core family: spouses, underage children. I don't think anybody has any problem with that.
The issue we're facing is the one concerning parents and grandparents. If you apply the principle I think you all have a responsibility to apply, and that is let us have immigrants serve Canada, not have Canadians serve the immigrants, by that criterion the parents and grandparents certainly do not qualify.
We can protect against the cost they impose on us by asking them to post bonds, as I and Mr. Kurland suggested. Instead, however, of paying it to the government, I think it should be put into escrow, and whenever they go to a doctor they should be required to draw on that money. If they need financial support because they can't work, they have no pensions, or anything of this sort, their children are responsible for that, not our welfare system.
I think that is fair for Canadians, and we have no obligations to the people who came here on their own family basis.