Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I don't presume to know who is innocent or guilty of whatever, but that is why we believe it's important to build a formal program that is an alternative to detention and that will set out the conditions by which we measure those who are at minimum risk, those who belong to vulnerable populations, those who will be compliant with whatever conditions we as a country believe need to be in place for our security.
I don't think—and you've heard it from many witnesses—that detention is necessarily the place for everyone who comes into our country. We've talked about children, about women with vulnerabilities, and we've talked to the obvious. We've talked about pregnant women and whether they should be kept in detention for 20 days or 10 days.
If we have these limits that we've set, if we have testing processes in place to ensure that folks meet those conditions, and if we have a program that's set up, including the bail programs in our various cities across the country and including NGOs that are willing to work with CBSA and other security forces to ensure that those released into their care are complying with the conditions put in place, then I think that's the better way to go.