We heard from those organizations while we were there in terms of getting their perspective on it. Whenever they have concerns, those concerns are immediately brought forward to the CBSA officials and are dealt with regardless of the level of complaint or concern.
I find it somewhat conflicting that while it may be true that detention isn't as good as freedom, it's a lot better than where they may have come from in seeking refugee status. Individuals without identification, such as the potential war criminals Mr. Oette was speaking to, would have the potential to seek means of being held other than detention. While I empathize with what you're saying, and you've told some very sad stories in your testimony, I'm left with the impression that one of the three facilities across the country may be run more effectively and efficiently in dealing with the clientele and the refugee applicants who are there. For that matter, they aren't necessarily refugee applicants. Some of them are there because they face deportation because they have been determined not to qualify for permanent residency, extended temporary visas, or refugee status. There is a requirement for those folks to be detained to make sure they do return to their country of origin.