You referred to two cases: that of Constable Todd Baylis, and that of the Just Desserts massacre in Toronto. In the case of Just Desserts, I should tell you that Georgina “Vivi” Leimonis was the one person who was murdered in that event. It was tragic, and 3,000 people were at her funeral, one of which was me.
She was a very vibrant young lady from the Greek community in Toronto, 23 years old, with a very bright future.
Can you tell us what you've heard from victims—