That's correct, absolutely. We're talking about two very different situations in our brief. One is people who are asking for refugee status and are excluded under what we feel are overly broad exclusion provisions. We feel that they should have access to humanitarian considerations. We're presenting a real-world case to show that.
I heard in the previous presentation that there are war criminals and that we have to get rid of them right away. Somebody like Salma, who distributed pencils and coffee at meetings, has been labelled a war criminal. That's one situation. Maybe she won't be able to stay, but she should at least have the chance to have her humanitarian case considered.
The second case is the kid next door who breaks into your house, drinks some of your liquor, and gets a six-month sentence. He hasn't lived in Eritrea or Iran since he was three. We feel that he also should have access to a humanitarian appeal. That doesn't mean he'll end up staying in Canada.