Your question is a valid one. I think that one way our industry has tried to deal with this is by having good, accurate labour market information. Heretofore, we've been partnered with HRSDC and CIC in order to produce that. You need that seven-, eight-, or ten-year look forward in order to ensure that the people you are bringing in will have jobs, that they will have employment, and that they will receive the necessary training.
In our industry, at the trades level it takes four years to go through an apprenticeship, so we have to be thinking long range. Having a snapshot of what it looks like today is not going to help whatsoever. That's why this is important. Quite frankly, that's why it's so important for federal government departments to continue to be partners with industry in this area. That is key. I do know that Minister Finley has announced a new program with respect to labour market information, which tries to get at that.
The other point is implicit in your question. It intrigues me and I'd like to hear some discussion on this. It implies that it is the provincial governments, perhaps, that should have a say here. After all, if the immigrants are not employable, it will fall upon the provinces, upon their social welfare programs, upon their rolls, to take care of those new Canadians or those newly landed immigrants. That begs the question, at least in our industry: if we are pushing employers to have to use the temporary foreign worker program and then the provincial nominee program, rather than having people come through the federal skilled worker program, it is pushing it more on the provincial level.