Now, if I list the three facilities we have, I thought the Vancouver one—it's not a reflection on staff—was virtually irrelevant as a detention centre. Then we went to Montreal, and the Montreal one had some excellent programming and was a decent facility. Then you go to Toronto, which has a decent facility. It had a wonderful program in the Toronto bail program. One would have thought, “Well, here's a great idea. Let's have it apply at least to Laval.” I would think they're fairly easy to duplicate.
My question for you is this. To what degree is the department today looking seriously at changing the way we detain people? Vancouver seems to be more wasteful than anything else...or build a real detention centre.
Can you tell the committee what's happening in the next four or five years in capital infrastructure for detention centres?