Thank you very much. I appreciate that.
While you have the ministers being involved, you're skewing the whole process of private members' business. That's the whole idea.
I understand and accept that ministers can legally sit on committees—the rules will allow that—but I can't think of a time when it's happened. Normally what happens, particularly in smaller legislatures across the country, is that it's almost impossible to have structured committees and reach quorum if they don't involve ministers.
There are exceptions to that concept, even here within our own confederation—