Ms. Sitsabaiesan, I am going to interrupt.
I want to know, for the sake of clarity for the clerk and me, who here from the government side are actually voting members now. You can have other people here and that's fine, but we need to make sure that our papers are in order. We have had a number of switches and replacements, and process is very important.
I see that we have six and Mr. Dykstra. Is Mr. Clark no longer with us?