Okay. I'm seeking some clarification and I will get back to all of you, so hold on to your points of order.
The chair now has the clarification. We don't actually have that dilemma to try to resolve because Mr. Dykstra has joined us.
I saw two hands for points of order, maybe three. I'm going to go to them in the order that I saw them.
I'm going to start with Ms. James.