We absolutely need more resources. We see the extent of the problem. We see many barriers to accessing help. Let me refer to another respected community group, which I know you've heard from—the South Asian Legal Clinic of Ontario, which has done a very specific survey of women affected by forced and under-age marriage. Their conclusion is exactly opposite to what this bill proposes.
They say that these women do not want to be criminalized. What they need is resources to help them escape these unsafe situations. They need to understand how they can leave, how they can be safe; they need financial support; they need housing to actually be able to leave their families.
As we have heard from Ms. Papp, what I hear that distinguishes honour-based violence is that it's hard to understand how women who are subjected to abuse feel at the same time guilt and shame and a loyalty to their family members. In fact, the criminalization of their very abusers is going to play into this kind of abuse and create a barrier to safety.