I think one of you touched on the appointment of board members. Now the Governor in Council appointments come from the minister or cabinet or somebody, and then the public service ones come from some other source. There lies the rub. The question is whether or not those people are competent.
I guess my question is twofold. I think you, Ms. Roushan, said that they should be appointed by a group of experts in the field. I understand that. Who's watching the watchers, I suppose? Who trusts whom? What sort of training should they have?