Mr. Aterman, I want to make one thing absolutely clear. The IRB is in many ways the envy of the world. You've set very high standards in terms of adjudication. From lawyers to other stakeholders that I have been able to speak to over the past number of years, the IRB does stand out as an incredible body that has done a great deal of work. In your last encounter here, you indicated that over 425,144 IRB decisions have been made since 2009. That's remarkable.
Where I think we're kind of stuck is that there is an appearance...it's not an actual conflict, but there is an appearance of conflict. There's an appearance that the chairperson undertaking the investigation may have some interest.... While I acknowledge what you said earlier today, I do think we need to find some opportunity to ensure that the IRB continues to be unimpeachable in terms of its adjudication.
What can you offer us today that will allow you to continue the work you do without putting in a strenuous layer of adjudication for complaints and still be able to reassure Canadians of the independence of the board as well as of the investigative process? I think these are two different things here.