Sure, but I wonder whether the regime is wrong, because you're referring to the relationship between the chair and the members of the panels as being an employer-employee relationship, or a manager-and-labour relationship. When I view the role of the chair in managing the administration of justice within the department, it's clearly not. The members are not the employees of the chair; they're independent adjudicators. Thus, it seems to me that it's completely at odds. The view you expressed of the relationship with the chair is not the same as my understanding.
Maybe we'll get to that with Mr. Aterman later, but do you have any comment on that? There seems to be a disconnect in the role.