Evidence of meeting #11 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was rate.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Tony Matson  Assistant Deputy Minister and Chief Financial Officer, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Anita Biguzs  Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Robert Orr  Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
David Manicom  Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic and Program Policy, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Dawn Edlund  Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

John McCallum Liberal Markham—Thornhill, ON

You're absolutely right in terms of our commitments, and as I answered to Ms. Kwan, we're working hard right now to determine exactly what processes and how many people will be involved, but it will happen soon and I will get back to you when we know the exact numbers.

There are about 12,000 privately sponsored refugees currently in the inventory. Our commitment, as you said, is that for all of those who applied by March 31 we will do everything in our power to ensure that they arrive in Canada in 2016 or, if necessary, in early 2017.

12:45 p.m.

Conservative

Bob Saroya Conservative Markham—Unionville, ON

Could I have another one?

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

You have 30 seconds.

12:45 p.m.

Conservative

Bob Saroya Conservative Markham—Unionville, ON

What options are being considered to respond to the ongoing interest in private sponsorship that the Syrian initiative has generated?

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

John McCallum Liberal Markham—Thornhill, ON

Okay, and I have about 20 seconds to answer that one?

It's almost an embarrassment of generosity. Canadians are so generous that it's making it difficult for me to respond quickly enough with the refugees. That's a major challenge now, which we are working to solve as best as we possibly can.

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

Thank you, Minister.

Mrs. Zahid, five minutes.

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

Salma Zahid Liberal Scarborough Centre, ON

Thank you, Chair.

I would like to thank the minister and the officials for joining us today. I want to specifically thank you, Minister, for all the work you have put into Bill C-6.

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

John McCallum Liberal Markham—Thornhill, ON

Well, it is I who thank you, or we can thank each other, I guess, but I know the committee has spent an awful lot of time on this.

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

Salma Zahid Liberal Scarborough Centre, ON

Thank you.

Further to Mr. Chen's question, I'm going to focus my questions around the backlog processing time as this is one of the most frequent complaints I hear from my constituents in the riding of Scarborough Centre, and I am sure I am not alone.

The status quo is simply not acceptable. Applicants are waiting too long for their applications to be processed. They are living in limbo and often are separated from their loved ones. That's really a thing of concern to all of us.

Minister, you have told this committee previously that lowering processing times, particularly in the family class, is a top priority for you. Your department is asking for a 13.5% increase in funding in these estimates for 2016-17. How much of that specifically will be directed towards decreasing the processing times?

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

John McCallum Liberal Markham—Thornhill, ON

My officials can seek out the exact number, but certainly it was part of our platform and part of the budget to put more money in to deal precisely with that issue. That has been done. As well, we may get more money in future budgets. That remains to be seen.

We're also working very hard to improve the efficiency with which we process people. For the same amount of money, we can process more people if we do it more efficiently. From the great efficiencies we've learned with refugees, we can transfer some of that learning over to other streams of immigrants.

In terms of your basic question, yes, you are right, refugees are very important. Refugees have been very much in the news. But I would say the single most important commitment we made in the election platform was to bring down the processing times for family class. Over the last 10 years, those processing times have ballooned through the roof to an unacceptable level. In particular, if the heavy hand of the Canadian state keeps spouses apart for two years on average, I think that is unacceptable. We will have measures to deal with that in a serious way soon. I cannot announce it today, but in a number of weeks we will be moving on that.

There are other things that are also important: parents, grandparents, caregivers, PR cards, and others. I put particular attention on the spouses, as part of the nuclear family, as being the really high priority. It's partly because for parents and grandparents, as a consequence of the diminished intake in the large numbers of parents and grandparents allowed to come in for a number of years, that processing time will come down automatically and significantly over the next few years.

That will solve itself, in part, but the spouses need direct action from us to solve it. That will be our first priority. We will come forward in the coming weeks, as they say, with action in this area.

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

Salma Zahid Liberal Scarborough Centre, ON

Thank you.

Further to this, I would like to specifically address the issue of inland spousal sponsorships. My office in Scarborough Centre has heard that wait times have grown significantly in this particular area. While there may not be an issue of physical separation, these people do deserve normalization of their status in a timely manner.

What are you doing to specifically address this category?

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

John McCallum Liberal Markham—Thornhill, ON

Well, in the coming weeks, we will. When I talk about spouses, I don't mean just overseas spouses, I mean overseas spouses and inland spouses.

I think the processing time is somewhat higher for the inland spouses than it is for the overseas spouses. Whether the spouse is overseas or inland, a spouse is still a spouse. One has to work very hard to reduce those processing times to acceptable levels. The levels they're at today are unacceptable.

Now, I know I cannot, as minister, go on forever saying this without action, but I'm telling you that within weeks we will have clear action on this front.

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

Salma Zahid Liberal Scarborough Centre, ON

Thank you, Minister. I think my time is up.

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

Thank you.

Mr. Tilson, did you—

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have no questions. It's just that the minister and members of the department have given us several undertakings. It's my understanding that the department is coming back on Tuesday for an hour at 12 o'clock. They probably don't know that yet, but we're inviting them back. I'm hopeful that the undertakings you've given would be provided at that time.

They're shaking their heads in the positive.

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

John McCallum Liberal Markham—Thornhill, ON

Well, that's news to me. I don't know if it's news to you, but....

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

Oh, you have other things to do, Mr. Minister.

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

John McCallum Liberal Markham—Thornhill, ON

Okay. Thank you very much. It's been a pleasure talking to you today.

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

Minister, it has indeed been a pleasure to have you appear, along with your officials.

I would now like to call the vote.

CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION

Vote 1—Operating expenditures..........$604,119,156

Vote 5—Capital expenditures..........$13,706,741

Vote 10—Grants and contributions..........$1,152,355,205

(Votes 1, 5 and 10 agreed to)

IMMIGRATION AND REFUGEE BOARD

Vote 1—Program expenditures..........$100,834,047

(Vote 1 agreed to)

Shall I report the votes on the main estimates to the House?

12:50 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

Thank you.

The meeting is adjourned.