I can speak to that. I watched the testimony last night so I did see what the minister said. I actually think the minister was wrong to say that if you're helping out with a form but not for a fee then it's actually providing legal advice and you have to have proper training, because you can actually assist someone who is a friend in answering questions as long as it's not for a fee.
My issue is that it is absolutely legal work. Whatever the consultants are doing, they're absolutely practising law in terms of whether they are advising on what information to put on the form. I heard yesterday what they were saying about that. All of that is legal advice. They're getting a fee for it and they are advising. How to answer a form can be quite critical. Are you a member of a terrorist organization? Are you this, or are you that? That's critical information.