Right, they are not the refugee camps outside the country.
Yes, I visited them at the end of May and was shocked. I have visited these camps every year now, and the conditions today are absolutely unacceptable and appalling. There are so many problems. Of course, access to health care is a big issue, because the Rohingya, as I said, are completely confined and segregated in these camps and cannot access health facilities outside except under military escort. There is only one hospital, in Sittwe, and many people are afraid to go there. Those who live in faraway camps sometimes need to arrange transportation by boat, etc., because the local Rakhine community does not allow Rohingya patients to actually access the local hospital, which is sometimes a few hundred metres from the camp.
Shelter is another issue. After four years, they're still in the same temporary shelters made of bamboo. Initially they were built because nobody wanted to see these camps as permanent, but now, after four years, I think there is an absolute need to replace these shelters. They are falling apart. It makes it very dangerous for children and families.
The sanitation is also pretty bad. Lots of toilets were destroyed. Women had to, for example, defecate in the fields. They were also at increased risk. There is a sense of desperation there. These people used to live together with the Rakhine in the town of Sittwe or nearby, and now they just don't see anything happening.
When we talk about the possibility of crimes against humanity, we also have to look at northern Rakhine, where the Rohingya are not in camps. Eight hundred thousand of them live there, but they have restrictions of movement that prevent them from accessing livelihoods and making a living. That's also why a lot of people flee.