Evidence of meeting #26 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was yazidi.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Drew Boyd  Director of Operations, The Sentinel Project for Genocide Prevention
Chris Lewa  Director, The Arakan Project
Rabea Allos  Director, Catholic Refugee Sponsors Council
Majed El Shafie  Founder and President, One Free World International
Lorne Weiss  President, Shaarey Zedek Synagogue, Operation Ezra
Nafiya Naso  Representative, Yazidi Community of Winnipeg, Operation Ezra

10:35 a.m.

Rev. Majed El Shafie

—but in the last two years, quite frankly, at least we are doing something about it; at least we are on the ground. I am going to the region in a few days. We are dealing with the locals. We have gone there many times. We deal with ORAT, which is an organization that has its own reputation. We have our lawyers, such as the lead, Ms. Chantal Desloges. At least we are doing something to start and to help these people as soon as possible.

10:35 a.m.

Liberal

Ali Ehsassi Liberal Willowdale, ON

Absolutely, and I think everyone shares that concern. It's just a question of the means that are adopted.

10:35 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. El Shafie.

Ms. Rempel, you have seven minutes.

July 20th, 2016 / 10:35 a.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

On behalf of us all, I want to thank all of you for the work you're doing to try to solve this situation. Sometimes the temptation for us here is to get bogged down in partisan politics. I know I take the bait sometimes, but my hope is that this committee will actually come up with some recommendations that the government can take to accelerate the applications of persecuted minority groups. Certainly at the top of that list would be the Yazidi people, who have been deemed to be victims of genocide.

We've now heard hours and hours of testimony on this issue, and there are a few recommendations I've taken away from various groups. I just want to put them out there, and with the time I have remaining, get you to respond to them to see if the list is comprehensive, if it makes sense, and if there's anything you have to add to the list.

First, we very clearly heard that we need to accelerate the refugee applications of Yazidi victims of genocide.

We need to prioritize refugee applications from persecuted and ethnic minority groups and LGBTI people in Canada's response to the Middle Eastern migrant crisis.

We need to ask the United Nations to make changes to the refugee selection process to accelerate applications for victims of genocide, highly persecuted ethnic and religious minority groups, and LGBTI people.

We need to restore the exemption from the mission cap for Syrian and Iraqi refugees under the privately sponsored refugee program.

We need to identify between 5,000 and 10,000 Yazidi victims of genocide and bring them to Canada as soon as possible as refugees and ensure that adequate support frameworks are in place for integration. Mr. Weiss, this is where your hybrid program is compelling. We can also look to Germany and Australia for best practices on how to do this quickly.

We need to examine and implement innovative ways to identify persecuted ethnic and religious minority groups for resettlement in Canada. Mr. El Shafie, you're not the only one who's talked about the difficulties.

I accept my colleagues' comments about security. Certainly, that's going to be an issue. But if the UN can't get this done quickly, how can Canada look at innovative ways to ensure that we are identifying people on the ground quickly and safely?

We need to ensure that adequate resources are deployed to process applications from these persecuted minority groups so they're not waiting in our system for five years.

One of the things I'd like to add is that I think many of you have significantly more expertise than we do, so one of the recommendations I would make to the minister is to establish a formal ministerial consultation group that's convened immediately to look at solutions for doing this, since many of you have results on the ground.

One of the things we've heard that my colleague, Ms. Kwan, has also been advocating is to ensure that we're tracking the number of people we're bringing in through these programs so we can measure the success and adequacy of the program changes we've made.

Do you think that's a comprehensive list of recommendations? Would you care to comment on it?

10:40 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

Perhaps we'll proceed in the sequence the panellists spoke initially, so we'll go to Mr. Allos first.

10:40 a.m.

Director, Catholic Refugee Sponsors Council

Rabea Allos

I believe that it is. Regarding identification of the government-sponsored refugees, or government-assisted refugees, instead of going to the United Nations and looking at their pool, Canada should consult other organizations in Canada to identify refugees rather than following the agenda of the UNHCR.

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Rev. Majed El Shafie

I agree, and I have no comment.

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Ms. Naso and Mr. Weiss.

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Representative, Yazidi Community of Winnipeg, Operation Ezra

Nafiya Naso

Thank you, Ms. Rempel.

I agree with everything you said. It's a good way to start, but everything we do we have to do fast to save these people.

10:40 a.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Mr. Weiss.

10:40 a.m.

President, Shaarey Zedek Synagogue, Operation Ezra

Lorne Weiss

If I could just build on my colleague's comments, I think the problem with the United Nations' definition of a refugee has been a stumbling block. I think we have to look beyond that and get away from definitions and look at the fact that Canada has played, for the last number of decades, a strong role acting in a humanitarian way, and we have to disregard the definition and move quickly. The most accessible refugees right now are in Turkey, and the situation in Turkey is unstable. If we have to wait a year to get these folks out, I'm not sure we're going to have access to them.

10:40 a.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

The genesis of this committee and the impetus for us to sit here on a beautiful summer day at the end of July is that, and certainly I feel, we can't wait until the House resumes in the fall to take action. Given your experience with the direness of the situation on the ground, what timeframe do you think is acceptable for action?

10:40 a.m.

Rev. Majed El Shafie

I believe the time is immediately, but the time frame in the next two months if we can start to move. If we can start right now, and we start to receive the first refugees within a timeline, I would say between a month and a half to two months.

10:40 a.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Mr. Weiss.

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President, Shaarey Zedek Synagogue, Operation Ezra

Lorne Weiss

We have to move very quickly on the ground. We just got notification that our fifth and sixth families had their applications approved by the government. Those applications were made in November. They still have to go through an interview process and other checks.

We have to move very quickly. I would say two months is a time frame to begin. We've shown that we can move quickly in dealing with the Syrian refugees. We're not creating something new. We're just applying that same model to a different group of people.

10:40 a.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Very quickly, typically the committee would produce a report that's tabled in the House of Commons. We actually don't have the mechanism to do that, because Parliament is in recess. My hope is that the committee can produce a letter to the minister with recommendations. Is the list of recommendations that I just put forward comprehensive? Is that something you'd like to see government members support in a letter to the minister?

10:40 a.m.

Rev. Majed El Shafie

Yes, from my side.

10:40 a.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Mr. Weiss.

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President, Shaarey Zedek Synagogue, Operation Ezra

Lorne Weiss

Yes, most definitely.

10:40 a.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Ms. Naso.

10:40 a.m.

Representative, Yazidi Community of Winnipeg, Operation Ezra

Nafiya Naso

Absolutely.

10:40 a.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Mr. Allos.

10:40 a.m.

Director, Catholic Refugee Sponsors Council

Rabea Allos

Definitely.

10:40 a.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Thank you.

Those are all the questions I have.

10:40 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

Thank you.

Ms. Kwan, you have seven minutes, please.