I haven't thought deeply on this issue because it falls so outside the work that we do in my office and in other legal aid clinics. I certainly think that the original target of 5,000 was completely unacceptable. I believe the target is now 10,000. I think upping it to 20,000 would be a good idea.
I think the idea that parents and grandparents are simply a drain on our system is a complete misconception of the way families work. Allowing in the family that's going to help in looking after children and in doing a lot of the things that will free up the parents to work and contribute economically is very significant. I would say at least 20,000....