My opinion would be that there needs to be a shift away from the burden on the sponsor. The sponsors could say their parents don't want to live with them, and they're not responsible. They'll go to social assistance, so that's going to ultimately come down on the government, and that's something we do not want. I guess that's why the LICO 30% came into play. But the LICO 30% removes a lot of working poor. It's something like $73,000 if you want to sponsor two people. I don't think that's realistic. I think if a husband and wife are working, maybe they can make $45,000. I don't know these numbers, and I'm not an expert. Definitely you have expertise in that area.
I don't think they just bring the ability of looking after the grandchildren. I think they also bring the cultural values. I think they bring stuff that we cannot quantify. It's quality. It could be love. It can be affection. It can be learning how to address something. Maybe it's even teaching not only their grandchildren but maybe even their own children in a situation that maybe the parents went through and never told their kids. I think the experience that they bring as parents, as pointed out earlier—