Evidence of meeting #41 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was data.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Robert Orr  Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
David Cashaback  Director, Social Immigration Policy and Programs, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Paul Armstrong  Director General, Centralized Network, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

3:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

Good afternoon. Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the committee on February 25, the committee will resume its study on family reunification.

Once again, to conclude our study, we have officials from the Department of Citizenship and Immigration. We have Mr. Robert Orr, assistant deputy minister for operations. Welcome back. We also have Mr. Armstrong, director general, centralized network, and Mr. Cashaback, director of social immigration policy and programs. Welcome, gentlemen.

You have seven minutes.

3:30 p.m.

Robert Orr Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Mr. Chair, thank you very much for the opportunity to appear before this committee as you continue this family reunification study.

You will recall that the minister appeared before this committee last month at the beginning of the process. At that time, he provided you with a broad overview of our family reunification program and some of the recent developments in our policies and practices as they relate to the program.

The minister pointed out that although economic immigration programs are responsible for the majority of newcomers who are welcomed to this country, the long-standing goal of reuniting families has been an important part of the history of Canada's immigration system, and it remains fundamental to that system.

He also identified, among other things, three areas allowing us to move forward to reduce processing times. They are increased levels space, increased funding, and greater efficiencies.

We know that family reunification helps immigrants to build successful lives in Canada, and that when families are able to reunite and stay together, their integration into our country, their economic outcome, and their ability to contribute to their communities, and to the broader Canadian society, greatly improve.

For example, sponsored spouses and partners do relatively well in the Canadian job market. Many of them report incomes and earnings that compare favourably to those of spouses and partners of immigrants chosen to come to Canada for their skills.

As well, the presence of parents and grandparents can improve economic outcomes for entire immigrant families.

Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada believes that unified families can help manage the task of child care more efficiently and as a result individual family members can more easily meet their work or academic obligations. This in turn can improve their chances of economic success in this country. In that sense, when Canadian citizens and permanent residents sponsor family members to join them in Canada, it not only benefits the members of those families, but also it contributes to our country's social, cultural, and economic development.

As we foster an increasingly diverse society, with more and more Canadians with spouses from abroad or with families that began abroad, we must ensure that our immigration system serves our country and Canadian families.

To that end, the department is particularly focused on reuniting close family members, who, in many cases, are kept apart by processing times that can be shortened.

As you know, Mr. Chair, we have announced that we are planning for about 80,000 admissions in the family class in 2016, including about 60,000 spouses, partners, and children, and 20,000 parents and grandparents. This represents an increase of about 12,000 family class admissions from the 2015 levels plan.

One of the reasons we are increasing admissions of sponsored family members is to help reduce inventories and processing times that keep families separated for extended periods of time. We're admitting more family class applicants, and we expect fewer delays related to levels space, which in turn will allow faster processing times for family sponsorships.

In the case of the parent and grandparent program, we have formally increased the number of entry applications that will be accepted annually. Beginning this year, the number of applications accepted for intake is 10,000, doubling the previous cap of 5,000 applications. We have also continued efforts to reduce the backlog inventory in this program.

We estimate that the parents and grandparents inventory will be reduced to 46,000 by the end of 2016, which is down from a peak of more than 165,000 in 2011.

To continually improve efficiency, we are learning from our experience in dealing with a huge growth in the temporary resident program. We have had success in this program by a combination of innovative measures and some permanent additional funding.

In order to make continued progress in that area, we are transferring the lessons learned from handling great increases in our volume of temporary resident applications, and from dealing more quickly with the processing of family class applications. The department is also working on other initiatives that will help unite families more quickly.

As the minister announced recently, we will be providing more opportunities for applicants who have Canadian siblings by giving additional points under the express entry system.

We are proposing to restore the maximum age for dependent children to under 22, from under 19, allowing more Canadians and permanent residents to bring their children to Canada. The proposed change was pre-published in the Canada Gazette last month.

We are also examining the current conditional permanent residence measure applied to some sponsored spouses and partners entering Canada.

The government is proposing to remove the conditional permanent residence requirement. This proposed change has also been pre-published in the Canada Gazette. Removing the condition is in line with the government's commitment to reunite families and make it easier for immigrants to build successful lives in Canada.

Mr. Chair, thank you once again for the opportunity to speak to the committee on this important topic. Again, I can assure you that family reunification is a key priority for the department.

3:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

Thank you, Mr. Orr.

Ms. Zahid, you have seven minutes.

3:35 p.m.

Liberal

Salma Zahid Liberal Scarborough Centre, ON

Thanks to all of you for coming today, as we approach the end of the study on family reunification.

You mentioned in your comments that the inventory for parents and grandparents will be brought to 46,000 by the end of 2016. How much more time do you think it will take to clear that backlog and what will be the impact of lifting the cap on applications once the backlog is exhausted?

3:35 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Robert Orr

There are two questions there, Mr. Chair.

On the first one regarding the prediction, it's a little bit hard to tell, but with current levels space, we anticipate that we will continue to make significant inroads in 2017 and continue on into 2018. What we are seeing though is, as we get rid of the old cases and process those through to completion, the processing times will drop significantly in the coming years. We are anticipating a major drop in processing times in the next little while.

The impact of lifting the cap would be significant because it's all tied to levels space, and if we do not have the levels space, that means the inventory would start growing again. It's a policy choice there, but if we are to lift the cap, to keep up to date we would need considerably more space within levels to keep pace.

3:35 p.m.

Liberal

Salma Zahid Liberal Scarborough Centre, ON

You mentioned that we would have 46,000 in the inventory by the end of December. Which year's applications are you dealing with right now?

3:35 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Robert Orr

We have already started to deal with—mostly they are from 2014, but we have also started some 2015 applications in that. In fact, there are even some from 2016.

We start them all off at the same point. It's a matter of getting enough applications into progress so that we're able to finalize, but we start them in chronological order, first-come, first-served basically, but various applications can take much longer than others to proceed, so the end result is not the same, but we do start them off on a first-come, first-served basis.

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

Salma Zahid Liberal Scarborough Centre, ON

All the applications that you received before 2014 are done, or are there some pending ones still?

3:40 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Robert Orr

They are not yet complete, but they are all in process.

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

Salma Zahid Liberal Scarborough Centre, ON

Okay.

What would be the impact of moving the requirement for a medical to the end of the application process to ensure that medicals don't expire before the application process is completed? We heard that many families had to go through the medical process a few times in the whole process.

3:40 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Robert Orr

Mr. Chair, we're making very real efforts to address that one, because it's not something that is beneficial for anyone concerned. Because of a new medical process and electronic medical processing, we're able to process them much faster, which means we don't require them at the beginning of the application. We're now going to be able to ask for the medicals at the appropriate time, so we will significantly reduce those occasions where individuals have to do them twice.

That will be applied to the spousal category, in particular, but it's also for parents and grandparents.

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

Salma Zahid Liberal Scarborough Centre, ON

I hope you understand that many families have four or five people, with the children, and the medicals can be very expensive and time-consuming.

3:40 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Robert Orr

We're very conscious of that. There is serious work being done to prevent that sort of thing from happening.

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

Salma Zahid Liberal Scarborough Centre, ON

During the course of our study, we heard from many witnesses that the traditional definition of a nuclear family, one with two parents and their children, is not relevant in much of the world, including many of the countries from which we are drawing immigrants. In some cultures, family often included siblings, parents, and grandparents living under the same roof. Has the department studied the implications of broadening the definition of family when it comes to our immigration system and who can be included as a family member on the initial immigration application?

3:40 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Robert Orr

Mr. Chair, I will turn to my policy colleague, but in the first instance, it is important to recognize that there is the proposal to move forward both in terms of siblings within the express entry program, which is broadening that aspect of family, and then also within the family class itself of raising the age of dependency from under 19 to under 22. There already is an expansion of who is included within “family”.

I ask for further explanation, though.

3:40 p.m.

David Cashaback Director, Social Immigration Policy and Programs, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

One thing I'll add is we have some experience to draw on in terms of our previous programs. Between 1988 and 1993, we did have an extended family program looking at that broader definition, which resulted in a much larger number of applications and subsequent backlogs. It took us up to a decade to clear a lot of that out. There is, of course, experience with that but also with managing the impacts.

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

Salma Zahid Liberal Scarborough Centre, ON

By when do you think the points will be added to the siblings for the express entry? Is this in process?

3:40 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Robert Orr

I can't give you a precise timing on that, but it's in the works and, as you know, it was one of the mandate commitments.

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

Salma Zahid Liberal Scarborough Centre, ON

Right now we understand that children not included in the original immigration applications cannot be sponsored at a future date. This is even if the applicant was not aware of the child or did not intend to hide the child or misrepresent that on the application. Several witnesses raised cases where this rule caused hardships and unfairness. If given the flexibility, do you believe your officials would be able to determine between cases of fraudulent misrepresentation and innocent mistakes?

3:40 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Robert Orr

The excluded family member clause is very much intended to prevent people who are not declared being sponsored at a later stage. It's to encourage full disclosure at the time of application and very much to help to prevent fraud, to protect the health, safety, and security of Canadians, and so on.

For those cases that are exceptional, there is the humanitarian and compassionate application process, which is available to those individuals. That is a safety valve, if you like, for those sorts of exceptional circumstances.

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

Thank you.

Mr. Saroya, you have seven minutes, please.

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

Bob Saroya Conservative Markham—Unionville, ON

Mr. Orr, what I'm looking at here is in 2011, the parents and grandparents numbered 165,000 applications. They will be reduced by 46,000 at the end of this year. Do we still have an inventory of 119,000 applications?

3:40 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Robert Orr

No, the inventory at the end of 2016 will be the 46,000, so we have brought it down by the difference.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

Bob Saroya Conservative Markham—Unionville, ON

Good. Some of the witnesses brought to our attention that in different areas, for example, on the east coast, expenses are much less than in Toronto, and for sponsoring, the necessary income required should be different for Toronto versus the east coast because it is much cheaper to live on the east coast in comparison.

Is there any rationale that we are applying to the standard income requirement for family sponsorship in the future?

3:45 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Robert Orr

The basis for the minimum necessary income is very much based on work done by Statistics Canada. We take their lead on this for what the cost of living is, and how it should be applied to the family class.