Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Yes, I know, but that is the minister's opinion. The reality on the ground is something very different, and the people on the ground are telling the minister, and everyone else who cares to listen, that it's very different. They are not trekking through the snow for fun. They are not taking a toddler for fun.
There was a report out there. I don't know if the minister saw it. A young toddler, a two-year-old, said to his mother, “I can't go on anymore. It hurts too much. You go on to Canada on your own.” This is not a joke. This is not something you can say is normal. People don't do this unless they feel the urgency and the desperation to do it. That is the reality, so I would urge the minister to reconsider this.
I want to ask a last question on transportation modes.