Thank you for the question, Ms. Kwan.
I would like to point out what my fellow witness, Mr. Bellissimo, spoke about, which was Hilewitz in 2005. It's not being applied as it should be. Currently, even with Hilewitz and with paragraph 38(1)(c), the charter isn't being applied as it should be, and neither is the United Nations convention that Canada ratified.
I think it's irreconcilable. Paragraph 38(1)(c) is flawed. Maybe it could work if we improved it, if we tweaked it here and there. We've had 12 years for it to be tweaked, and it has not been tweaked enough, so it hasn't been working. In the meantime, we are confronting an international breach of our commitments, and I think we need to look at that.