As we indicated previously, we've provided an estimate of the dollar cost related to the specific individuals who have undergone the assessment for a given set of representative decisions. It's difficult to estimate. As I understand it, from what the committee members have described, and you've heard both sides, the estimate may be too high or too low.
Certainly at the level of officials, when we were in discussion with the provincial and territorial departments responsible for immigration, in a number of cases the provincial officials raised the issue that we were not considering the potential of a deterrence effect. That was because we were unable to assess that through an evidence-based approach. It's hard to tell, therefore, whether or not elimination of section 38 in its entirety or just paragraph 38(1)(c) would have a significant impact.