No, and I think that's very evident in what I was telling you about the language they're using. They're saying, “I'm crazy. My daughter is crazy.” These are harmful things, but you can feel her desperation in that she doesn't know how to express their deep needs and her daughter's deep needs. Labels, like “crazy”, are obviously very difficult because the 13-year-old daughter now labels herself that way. When I ask, “Are you okay, Dunia, today? How are you feeling?”, she says, “I'm crazy.” As a mother of five, that's really hard to hear.
On November 30th, 2017. See this statement in context.