Okay, so even numbers are not being disclosed.
I just highlight this as an issue because minister's permits were utilized during the Tiananmen Square situation. In fact, they were used quite regularly by the ministry then. I'm wondering whether or not they are being utilized at this time. I do think that it is important to actually adopt some of those measures that were utilized during that time because there are similarities in terms of the risks for the people of Hong Kong at this point.
As well, related to the H and C stream, back in the Tiananmen Square situation, it was clearly indicated, “all persons who have in some way individually embarrassed their government and in so doing have exposed themselves to severe sanctions should they return.” Those were the instructions that were given to officials then to consider H and C applications. Have there been any special instructions given by IRCC for consideration of H and C applications for the people of Hong Kong?