We have a great discrepancy of information here, because, according to the information we were provided by the researchers at Hong Kong Watch, your two Canadian companies with subsidiaries in Hong Kong are sitting at about $3.7 billion Canadian of pension assets that belong to Hong Kongers, some of whom are discouraged from applying because of the record. What we see sometimes is a 90% decline in this. You're saying that the numbers that you have are far different from the numbers that were being provided by research organizations.
I'll go to Ms. Hewitt, first of all.