Evidence of meeting #106 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was subamendment.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Rémi Bourgault

Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe Bloc Lac-Saint-Jean, QC

I raise a point of order, Mr. Chair.

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

We have a point of order from Mr. Brunelle-Duceppe.

Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe Bloc Lac-Saint-Jean, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Just because we are talking about Afghanistan does not mean we are within the scope of the motion we are looking at today. The motion is on the letter that was written—

Arielle Kayabaga Liberal London West, ON

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe Bloc Lac-Saint-Jean, QC

Excuse me, but I have not finished my point of order. It won’t take long.

Arielle Kayabaga Liberal London West, ON

I have a point of order.

Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe Bloc Lac-Saint-Jean, QC

Right now, this meeting is being held in public. Filibustering is going on, even though everyone knows what the outcome of the vote will be. It’s not classy. If people are watching—

Arielle Kayabaga Liberal London West, ON

Chair, I am calling for a point of order on his comments.

Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe Bloc Lac-Saint-Jean, QC

—it looks bad.

Excuse me, but I am speaking.

Arielle Kayabaga Liberal London West, ON

Yes, but I am raising a point of order because—

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Madam Kayabaga, honourable members, please, just one person at a time. If there's another point of order I will entertain that, but Mr. Brunelle-Duceppe has the floor.

Arielle Kayabaga Liberal London West, ON

I call a point of order on what Mr. Brunelle-Duceppe is commenting on.

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Let Mr. Brunelle-Duceppe finish, and then I'll acknowledge you on a point of order.

Mr. Brunelle-Duceppe, go ahead, please.

Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe Bloc Lac-Saint-Jean, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

What I want to say is that we are off-topic. Just because we are talking about what happened in Afghanistan does not mean we are dealing with the subject before us today, meaning the letter on Afghanistan. People are watching us and I am sure they do not agree with the way taxpayer money is being spent right now, since everyone knows what the outcome of the vote will be. I suggest my colleagues get down to business and move on to the vote.

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Thank you.

Madam Kayabaga, go ahead on a point of order.

Arielle Kayabaga Liberal London West, ON

I call a point of order on what my colleague Mr. Brunelle-Duceppe is commenting on as well as what was said earlier. I think my colleague Paul Chiang has the floor right now. He's making comments. He's allowed to expand his comments to reach the point that he's trying to make. We've never stopped any of our colleagues from making comments. [Pursuant to an order made by the committee on June 17, 2024, a portion of this statement has been deleted. See Minutes of Proceedings]

Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe Bloc Lac-Saint-Jean, QC

I raise a point of order, Mr. Chair.

Ms. Kayabaga just talked about something that happened while in camera. She does not have the right to do so. There are still limits here.

Arielle Kayabaga Liberal London West, ON

I'm sorry. Mr. Chair, I'm just going to finish my point of order. Our colleagues have the right to expand—

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Madam Kayabaga, hold on just one second.

To all honourable members, if you can raise your hand, I will acknowledge you.

Madam Kayabaga, I think we are getting into a debate, so I'm going to move on.

Arielle Kayabaga Liberal London West, ON

I just want to finish my point, Mr. Chair. I called a point of order to say that our colleagues have the right to expand upon and make comments on the point that they're trying to make. This is a very serious motion that's here before us today. Our colleague Mr. Chiang has the right to make comments, and I have all the time to listen to what he has to say.

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Thank you.

Madam Kwan, do you have a point of order as well?

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

Yes, this is on a point of order, Mr. Chair.

Do I have the floor now?

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Yes, please.

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

I'm afraid that the last comment Ms. Kayabaga made was in violation of confidential information at an in camera meeting. As such, I seek your advice on the process to follow, based on that.

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Thank you.

I suspend the meeting to talk to the clerk for a few seconds here.