Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
There's no question that this situation is horrendous. How is it possible, first off, on the question around human smuggling, that this is allowed to happen, where people died?
Then we have a situation where, under the current circumstances, people are pushed further into desperation because of changing attitudes toward refugees, changing attitudes toward people with a status that has fallen out. People are desperate and, in that desperation, they turn to human smugglers. They are taken advantage of. They have their lives put in jeopardy, and some people have died. The people who benefit from it are human smugglers.
There's a question that needs to be asked: What is the government doing in facilitating or even creating an environment that pushes people into that desperate situation? We also need to examine the circumstances and the environment in which government policies and attitudes have created this desperation in the hearts and minds of those who are fleeing persecution, who are fleeing those circumstances and who are desperate enough to seek out a human smuggler. That is an important question that somehow, I'm sad to say, the Liberals are not particularly interested in and the Conservatives couldn't care less about. We're perpetually in this environment that causes people harm.
Mr. Chair, are you flagging me for something?