We need to wait. Is everybody good with that?
Okay. Excellent. The clerk will invite the witnesses for the second hour, then.
For your information, on Monday, November 25, the minister will appear on the 2024 annual report to Parliament on immigration and also the supplementary estimates (B) for 2024-25.
Pursuant to Standing Order 106(4), the committee will commence consideration of the request to undertake a study of the urgent issue of a passport being issued to a known convicted human smuggler with a court order issued forbidding possession of any travel documents.
We have Mr. Kmiec and then Mr. Paul Chiang.