Evidence of meeting #118 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was floor.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

Has that been sent to committee members?

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

It's ready. If the dilatory motion to resume the debate goes forward, then we will forward that.

Do you want to bring the motion—

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

I know you'll forward it if we resume the debate, but was it forwarded to committee members after the last meeting? Do we have that language sent to committee members?

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

I have a point of order from MP Kmiec.

Noon

Conservative

Tom Kmiec Conservative Calgary Shepard, AB

Chair, we have witnesses here for the second panel, and you've just excused the first one.

We're not in committee business. This is a debate for committee business time. The rules are clear.

We're supposed to hear from the witnesses, some of whom have travelled a long way to give their testimony before the committee. It's highly irregular for this to be done in this way. If there is a motion to be moved for reconsideration of debate, then let it be moved. Let's have the vote and proceed before the House has another vote, which we know is going to happen today.

Otherwise, this is an out-of-order discussion, because we're not in committee business.

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

I agree with Mr. Kmiec.

MP Kwan, I'm sorry. I gave you the floor, but now I cannot give you any more opportunity, because the members seem to be agitated.

If you want to bring the motion forward, please do. I can assure you that both the French and the English versions are ready. If the vote goes through to continue the debate, our clerk will be able to circulate that.

With that, I give the floor—last chance—to MP Kwan. If you want to, bring the motion forward, or we'll just will carry on with the witnesses. The witnesses have been here. For the first witnesses, I had to release them, and now I can see that the witnesses for the second hour are here and we are already five or 10 minutes into their time.

Please let me know.

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. That's so kind—also the committee members. I'd be happy to move a motion with respect to the debate we were having at the previous meeting.

Mr. Chair, I move that we resume debate on that motion, with the various amendments. To my recollection, where we were at was that there was an amendment on the floor from Mr. McLean, and I would move that we resume the debate where we left off at the last meeting, Mr. Chair.

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

I have a point of order from Mr. Brunelle-Duceppe.

Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe Bloc Lac-Saint-Jean, QC

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

When you asked to release the witnesses earlier, you didn't say whether you would invite them back to speak at another meeting. I just want to make sure that we'll have a chance to hear from these witnesses at a later date.

Can you confirm this?

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

That's 100%, Mr. Brunelle-Duceppe.

Now there is a dilatory motion on the floor. There's no debate on this one, but there is a vote.

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

I'd like a recorded vote.

(Motion negatived: nays 10; yeas 1)

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

I have two members now. I have Mr. Chiang and Mr. Redekopp.

Mr. Chiang, go ahead.

Paul Chiang Liberal Markham—Unionville, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you to all the members for the vote today.

With regard to all the votes that are happening today and our witnesses not being able to speak, I would like to move that we adjourn our meeting and call the witnesses to be on this panel at another time.

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

This is a non-debatable motion to adjourn the meeting.

(Motion agreed to on division)

We will bring the witnesses back. The meeting is adjourned.